Photographer Herb Klein’s new book Lost Gay South Africa |
The irrepressible
Herb Klein is a pioneering male physique photographer from Zimbabwe who, after
moving to South Africa in the 1970s, shot the first full-colour nude gay
magazine on the continent.
I discovered Klein’s work alongside his
contemporaries Herb Ritts and Bruce Weber in David Leddick’s great 1998
compendium The Male Nude, then later on DVD when screening his gay adult films Here Comes Santa and Tango City, which he directed under his
porn-director name, Flash Conway.
No question, the man has an eye an eye for
talent and readers will enjoy his photos of beautiful men in his newly-published
photo-filled book Lost Gay South Africa. I recently sat down with Klein
for a candid Q&A.
Three
Dollar Bill: Why did you decide to make this book?
Herb Klein: Well I have this wealth of material gathered
over many decades. So I thought I would start a Facebook page to share it with
friends near and far.
Why did you call your book Lost Gay South Africa?
Photographer Herb Klein |
I canvassed my membership from the Facebook page asking
for name suggestions. A friend in London said how about emulating Lost Gay London, a popular Facebook page
in England.
You once told me, “I’ve always been a people
photographer. I picked up a camera when I was six because Dad was too drunk to
take a photo.” How did you decide to become a male physique photographer?
Correction: It’s true that dad was a little unsteady when
taking family pictures with the Kodak Box Brownie after a whiskey or two so I
took up the task.
The male physique photography came about because of the
very strict laws prevailing in South Africa at the time regarding the importing
of any adult books, films or magazines from abroad. The law didn’t say that one
could not create materials locally. We only had the Publications Act which
covered the prohibition of “obscene materials” without actually being clear on
what exactly constituted obscene material.
I tested this in court once when in my own defense after
having some of my “smuggled” stuff seized. I told the young lady prosecutor
that as the law stood the definitions were vague and subjective. She was trying
to get an admission out of me that some of the magazines were pornographic and
I was not going to budge. She even pulled opened a page showing a close up of
an erection and said, “Well what about this then?”
I said, “No, it’s not pornographic.”
“What is it then?” she asked.
“Well,” I said, “it resembles medical photography. It’s not
pornographic.”
The handsome young magistrate was extremely amused and kept
asking to look at the materials. Finally the case was thrown out and I even got
to keep some of the confiscated stuff. After that I approached anyone I wanted
for a shoot and most were delighted to strip off for the camera.
You have an eye for capturing male beauty. What is it you
look for in a model?
Well youth is more photogenic and I prefer the natural
boy next door look. Not too buffed. No shaving of body hair. Latterly the craze
for overdoing tattoos and totally shaved pubes completely destroys the
subliminal sexiness inherent in the natural look.
You moved from Zimbabwe to South Africa in the 1970s and
began shooting male-physique calendars and mail-order photo sets in a region
where homo-erotica was not permitted. What was it like for you to shoot the
first full-colour gay nude magazine on the continent, as well as launch the
modeling careers of many black men in South Africa?
Photo from Lost Gay South Africa (Herb Klein) |
I left Rhodesia (now called Zimbabwe) for South Africa in the early 1970s. Hunk
photography for me only began in the early 1980s. Before that I worked at many
jobs and did a tremendous amount of traveling around the globe. My magazine
called FLASH came out in the mid 1990s.
I can’t say that I launched the careers of many black men. There certainly were
a few who took my advice and got work in fashion.
My FLASH
magazine was enthusiastically embraced in South Africa. It was pioneering and
so I did not get rich from that. To many who lived in small towns it was a
lifeline. This was before the days of the Internet.
What was gay life like in South Africa for you in the
1980s and 1990s?
For me it was a ball. I have lots of pictures in my book
and anecdotes from people who lived through it.
Was gay life segregated along colour lines back then?
Officially there were laws which kept the different
groups apart but these were largely ignored in the LGBT community. I can never
remember a person of colour – as the euphemism went – being thrown out of a
club because they were black. In my book I do have pictures of a variety of hot
people.
There are a lot of changes in the present time and I am
not sure that I am qualified to evaluate. I think that it is becoming generic
and interchangeable with a Western model. The Internet and all its attractions
are here, and black men here are driving expensive cars and wearing designer
clothing. There has been an exodus of an entire generation as opportunities for
a young white male are dramatically reduced due to an aggressive affirmative-action
policy and quotas in the work place. So this has bred many entrepreneurs who
are doing well for the most part in spite of the challenges posed by a high
crime rate and a kleptocracy in government.
Your book includes audio from Granny Lee. Who is Granny
Lee and why was she important?
Granny Lee (Photo by Herb Klein) |
Granny Lee was a much beloved gender bender disco icon of
the 1980s. She was flamboyant, could swear like a sailor and was kind and funny
and entertaining. Interestingly, she was not white. I have a huge section of
her in my book including a recording of an interview I did months before she
died.
Did you lose a lot of friends to HIV/AIDS?
I lost my dearest friend in 1987. Yes there were others
who were lost. The old days were great. I am a different person now and have a
better filter to keep the psychopaths out. I live in the moment.
What is
like to have your work included alongside such other seminal photographers as
Robert Mapplethorpe and Bruce Weber in the essential 800-page book The Male Nude by David Leddick?
It was
flattering and really boiled down to luck. I believe there were countless other
photographers who were equally deserving.
One of
your adult-film / model discoveries was Jorge Schmeda – later better-known as porn star Max Schutler – in Buenos Aires in 2005 when you cast
him in your movie TANGO CITY. What
was he like, and what are your thoughts on his recent death?
Jorge was a sweetie and I knew the moment I met him that
he had star power. I wish I had done more films with him but my Hollywood
distributor “was unable to generate sufficient money from my eminently bankable
star” and, despite Jorge’s entreaties for me to return to Buenos Aires to shoot
more films – as he had scores of cute friends anxious to star – I was unable
to. TANGO CITY’s income did not cover
its costs. So Jorge with my blessing approached Raging Stallion and the rest is
history. Jorge’s untimely death is a sad reminder of how drugs are claiming the
lives of countless people in their prime.
Jorge Schmeda (L) starred in Tango City |
Any chance Flash Conway will direct another adult film?
Definitely not. I love the work and I am a great talent
but just cannot cope with the dishonesty, corruption and destruction of careers
by the people in that milieu. And anyway, people nowadays want the best porn
and are not willing to pay for it.
For indie filmmakers and auteurs, is the porn business
viable anymore?
The porn business on its own is no longer viable.
How much do you love South Africa?
You know Africa is in some respects a tragedy. I do
believe that in about 30 years from now, if the globalists are defeated, it
will again be restored and be a paradise.
Will you ever return to Canada?
I can’t wait to get back to Canada and Montreal in
particular.
Why is Montreal a sexy city?
You have the Quebecois. There’s your answer right there.
In a world
where some 350 million photos are uploaded to Facebook every day, has the value
of photography been diminished?
The digital
era has brought new life to photography.
The era you captured on film in South Africa – why was it
a golden era?
Not only was it a golden era in South Africa, one only
has to look at the legacy of Studio 54 in Manhattan. I was in New York City in
1977 and kept meaning to go check it out but I slept through it. That was
Victor Morales from Puerto Rico’s fault, but that’s another story!
Herb Klein’s Lost
Gay South Africa is available as
an iBook from the Apple store, and will soon be available via
AMAZON.
Three Dollar Bill: Road to Cape Town
This is Herb Klein’s first Three Dollar Bill interview published in Hour magazine
on December 3, 2003.
I have a soft spot for Zimbabwean
photographer Herb Klein, whose work I discovered alongside his contemporaries
Herb Ritts and Bruce Weber in David Leddick’s great 1998 compendium The Male Nude.
Photographer Herb Klein is featured in The Male Nude |
Mostly I love Herb because the gay
gaze of his best photography and pornography is a thorn in the side of
Zimbabwe’s iron-fisted dictator Robert Mugabe, who has famously called gays and
lesbians “worse than pigs and dogs.”
Last week Herb, based in Montreal
(and my friend) the last five years, returned to his homeland where his
family’s 5,000-hectare cattle farm was seized after Rhodesia became Zimbabwe in
1980. As recently as the mid-’90s Zimbabwe was the granary of Africa, but
today, debilitated by AIDS, corruption, poverty and drought, the nation is
teetering on the edge of ruin.
Herb’s mother now divides her time
between neighbouring Botswana and the city of Bulawayo in northern Zimbabwe.
(When I drove through Bulawayo years ago I was just jubilant the city had an
ice cream parlour.)
“Bulawayo is Matabele for ‘A Place
of Slaughter,’” Herb says without a trace of irony (he speaks Matabele
fluently). “My family’s farm was stripped under Mugabe. We had to leave because
all our neighbours were murdered. But basically all material things in life can
be replaced. You have to move on.”
Herb, 50, no longer mourns the
loss of his family’s farm. But he’s travelling and working in Zimbabwe,
Botswana and South Africa through next spring because he loves the land.
“I’ve always been a people
photographer. I picked up a camera when I was 6 because Dad was too drunk to
take a photo.”
Photo from Lost Gay South Africa (Herb Klein) |
Herb’s been snapping ever since.
He moved to South Africa in the 1970s and began shooting male-physique
calendars and mail-order photo sets in a region where erotica – especially
homo-erotica – was ruthlessly crushed.
“I shot the first full-colour gay
nude magazine on the continent, I’ve launched the modelling careers of many
black men in South Africa,” says Herb, whose first-ever gay porn, Here Comes Santa, filmed
in Montreal this past summer, has just been released (Herb’s porn director name
is the suitably cheesy Flash Conway). “Now I’m going back to shoot films of
South African guys because there’s no decent gay porn films from out of there.”
There was a time when many
American outlets wouldn’t buy his photos. “I tried to sell pictures of black
men to The Advocate years ago and [my contact] said the photography was
beautiful but the models were too National Geographic. That was the way he put
it.”
Today Herb is much in demand and
expanding to film. “It’s my calling card, it’s opening doors and allowing me to
travel and shoot more pictures. The problem with porn today is when people
focus on volume they get a checklist: blowjobs, rimming, 15 strokes and the cum
shot. There are over 1,000 porn movies produced every month. It’s a
billion-dollar industry. They just churn them out. They’re okay but nothing
special.”
Herb makes his real.
“You need the element of
chemistry. If they wouldn’t give each other a second look in the real world,
they won’t have that look – unless they’re hardened hookers. So I try to
partner them up with people they want to have sex with.”
Johannesburg Pride 2015 (Photo by Herb Klein) |
All said, it’s a long way since
director Wakefield Poole’s pioneering 1971 gay porn Boys in the Sand (last
I spoke with Poole he was a chef for Calvin Klein) and even Chi Chi LaRue, whom
I met shortly after the release of his 1996 big-budget masterpiece Lost in Vegas (made
for $75,000 and loosely based on Oscar-winner Leaving Las Vegas).
“If a film is well made – Chi Chi
LaRue still sells films he made five or six years ago – you can sell your back
catalogue,” Herb explains. “So I retain my rights. They revert back to me after
a couple of years. I will have a back catalogue so one day you can download
digital DVD-quality video from broadband. That’s coming.”
As for all the anti-porn
moralizers, Herb says, "You’ve been to Pompeii, you’ve seen all the art in
the bathhouses and brothels from two thousand years ago. It’s the same with
porn today. Viewers are voyeurs. Anyone who looks at a video is to some degree.
It’s human nature – we like to watch.”
Herb Klein’s Lost
Gay South Africa is available as
an iBook from the Apple store, and will soon be available via
AMAZON.
Herb is to be crowned Mr. Angle Lens
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